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joining me on the phone is cnn national security contributor fran townsend. she is a member of the cia external advisory committee. fran, you said that this is a terrible blow for the country, aside from losing his expertise to the cia what other reprecussions do you see to the intelligence community? >> you know what, i think we have to put this in perspective. while much of washington, i think, the country was shocked by yesterday's news of david petraeus' resignation, the cia is an agency that has suffered terrible losses. remember, at the coast bombing they lost a good number of their own offices, who were killed. so, this is an agency that understands the depths of loss and the heights of success and the killing of bin laden. they're going to be fine. move on as an organization and the new acting deputy director career analyst from the cia. he was george w. bush's presidential briefer. he is an absolute professional and respected throughout the agency. look, i expect that the cia will be, you know, certainly competently and well led and they will continu
joining me on the phone is cnn national security contributor fran townsend. she is a member of the cia external advisory committee. fran, you said that this is a terrible blow for the country, aside from losing his expertise to the cia what other reprecussions do you see to the intelligence community? >> you know what, i think we have to put this in perspective. while much of washington, i think, the country was shocked by yesterday's news of david petraeus' resignation, the cia is an...
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back with us now is dana bash and fran townsend, cnn national security contributor. fran recently visited libya. fran, you've been critical of how the administration has handled the administration, but isn't it an overreach for congressman rohrabacher to say the president is lying because when i kept asking him for actual evidence he didn't really seem to let any. >> he didn't seem to let you talk, anderson. you could barely get they request out. i think that is a stretch. i'm not prepared to say the president is lying and i don't think the white house or the administration handled the protection of the consulate running up to the attack very well or the aftermath of it. i don't think they explained it very well to the american people, but i don't think we can say at least at this point, that we have evidence that the president lied. it's interesting and the president was aware very early on that there was this possibility that this actually had been a terrorist attack. i go back to his statement in the rose garden and secretary clinton was standing next to him and h
back with us now is dana bash and fran townsend, cnn national security contributor. fran recently visited libya. fran, you've been critical of how the administration has handled the administration, but isn't it an overreach for congressman rohrabacher to say the president is lying because when i kept asking him for actual evidence he didn't really seem to let any. >> he didn't seem to let you talk, anderson. you could barely get they request out. i think that is a stretch. i'm not...
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fran townsend, thank you for break it down for us. appreciate it. >>> well, president obama's news conference likely going to be dominated by questions about the latest scandals. there's still a large looming issue of the fiscal cliff. we have to take a look at what democrats and republicans can actually find some common ground. plus, who is jill kelly? we have new information about the woman tied to the downfall of america's top spy chief. and -- >> i didn't go to iraq with 60 marines that just wanted to go down and level a city. i went with 60 marines that wanted to improve a city, so why would it stop overseas? >> how one veteran is helping others with his war dance. oh, let me guess --ou see this? more washington gridlock. no, it's worse -- look, our taxes are about to go up. not the taxes on our dividends though, right? that's a big part of our retirement. oh, no, it's dividends, too. the rate on our dividends would more than double. but we depend on our dividends to help pay our bills. we worked hard to save. well, the president
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we are joined by fran townsend, a member of the cia's external advisory board. fran, have you been talking to sources, what have you learned about possible legal fallout? >> it's interesting, anderson. we understand that paula broadwell consented to the search of her homes, but after a discussion between her lawyers and the fbi, they decided to get a search warrant. we understand that they are reviewing documents, but based on what they've seen so far, they say that the classified material is one, not substantial, two, while it may be a technical violation, it's not egregious. as a result of that, the law enforcement official told me they don't expect there will be a prosecution related to the unauthorized release of classify information, but that ultimately, that's not a decision that the fbi will make. they will make a presentation, they expect to wrap up in the next few days. they may want to do a final interview of paula broadwell, they will present what they have to the justice department and it's ultimately the justice's department decision whether to pros
we are joined by fran townsend, a member of the cia's external advisory board. fran, have you been talking to sources, what have you learned about possible legal fallout? >> it's interesting, anderson. we understand that paula broadwell consented to the search of her homes, but after a discussion between her lawyers and the fbi, they decided to get a search warrant. we understand that they are reviewing documents, but based on what they've seen so far, they say that the classified...
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fran townsend, appreciate it. suzanne kelly. >>> there is new information in the finances of jill kelley and her husband scott, the florida couple caught up in the scandal. they started a cancer charity back in 2005, shortly after they moved to tampa, dissolved it a couple of years later and they are facing several lawsuits over money problems. drew griffin who is part of the cnn special investigation unit joins us with more on that what have you learned? >> another twisted part of the tale, anderson. public records show as jill kelley was entertaining top military brass in her backyard, she and her husband, dr. scott kelley, were battling a bank in court, because the bank claimed they weren't paying their mortgage. documents show the red brick house we've been showing on tampa's exclusive bay shore drive, purchased in 2004 for $1.5 million. four years later, regions bank files to foreclose on the kelleys, because the bank said they hadn't sent in a mortgage payment since september 2009. records we've seen show th
fran townsend, appreciate it. suzanne kelly. >>> there is new information in the finances of jill kelley and her husband scott, the florida couple caught up in the scandal. they started a cancer charity back in 2005, shortly after they moved to tampa, dissolved it a couple of years later and they are facing several lawsuits over money problems. drew griffin who is part of the cnn special investigation unit joins us with more on that what have you learned? >> another twisted part...
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i'm joined by fran townsend, bob bayer and suzanne kelly. also in staten island, why the people here in staten island, across the bay, rockaway and parts of new york and new jersey area are still struggling to survive. it has become a question of survival to some folks at this point. the freezing cold conditions and destroyed property. also tonight, the politics as usual. we'll play parts of the duelling events today in washington. we'll talk about whether the country's leaders are willing to put decent dysfunction ahead of the compromise the country cl r clearly voted for. >> thank you and we'll see you in just a few moments. >>> our fifth story, karl rove losing his touch. the man who spent years on top of the conservative political world, the man dubbed george w. bush's brain. his super pac spent a huge amount on the election. they shelled out more than $170 million. 1.29% of that resulted in winning elections. the second biggest winner, a super pac called restore our future, had a zero percent return. now, a branch of karl rove's organiz
i'm joined by fran townsend, bob bayer and suzanne kelly. also in staten island, why the people here in staten island, across the bay, rockaway and parts of new york and new jersey area are still struggling to survive. it has become a question of survival to some folks at this point. the freezing cold conditions and destroyed property. also tonight, the politics as usual. we'll play parts of the duelling events today in washington. we'll talk about whether the country's leaders are willing to...
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joining me now is fran townsend and bob baer and suzanne kelly. suzanne, what more can you tell us about the probe into the relationship with paula broadwell? do we know how long this has been going on? >> we don't know how long it was going on, but just the -- so they're the ones that would look into accusations of inappropriate access to classified information. individuals that hold clearances, are they doing what they need to be doing to make sure that information stays safe? is there any opportunity whatsoever that that information could be exploited by either a spy or anyone else who shouldn't have access to that information. so the fact that they were the ones looking into this, tells you that, you know, they were concerned about some of the e-mail things. let's back up for a moment. this was a tip that they were given. that there was this relationship going on between the two. what they have dug into were things like e-mails, texts, things like that. and they know the two, if it turns out to be paula, and we can't confirm it is, and a tip w
joining me now is fran townsend and bob baer and suzanne kelly. suzanne, what more can you tell us about the probe into the relationship with paula broadwell? do we know how long this has been going on? >> we don't know how long it was going on, but just the -- so they're the ones that would look into accusations of inappropriate access to classified information. individuals that hold clearances, are they doing what they need to be doing to make sure that information stays safe? is there...
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fran townsend, thank you. bob baer, thanks to you as well. >> thank you. >>> a diplomatic defeat for the united states and israel as palestinians celebrate a vote at the united nations. a live report from ramallah is straight ahead. >>> president obama and mitt romney face-to-face for the first time since the election. we will tell you how it went and what the former political rivals discussed. that's ahead. oney. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. >>> a small but symbolic victory for palestinians today. the united nations assembly voted overwhelmingly to grant palestinians what's called nonmember observer state status, a stinging defeat for the united states and israel, w
fran townsend, thank you. bob baer, thanks to you as well. >> thank you. >>> a diplomatic defeat for the united states and israel as palestinians celebrate a vote at the united nations. a live report from ramallah is straight ahead. >>> president obama and mitt romney face-to-face for the first time since the election. we will tell you how it went and what the former political rivals discussed. that's ahead. oney. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from...
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>> yeah, fran townsend had reported this earlier this evening. it is peers as though the information may have been classified but there wasn't any serious concerns there. it will be up to the department of justice to decide. >> he released a statement today saying he intends to cooperate with the agency. he believes that the e-mails were harmless. >> his statement was pretty confident. it didn't sound like something coming that it was going to be damaging from their careers. it some possible that at the end of the day general petraeus was the casualty of an affair. of how he had phrased it himself as a lack of judgement. it would be that he is the biggest casually out of this. >> thank you very much. >> pleasure. >> joining me now is one of the senator senators taking the said of president obama. getting heated today between the president and you guys over this issue. how convinced that you are right in your suspicions that there is genuine foul play here? more questions and answers. that is why we called for the collecti selection of a committee
>> yeah, fran townsend had reported this earlier this evening. it is peers as though the information may have been classified but there wasn't any serious concerns there. it will be up to the department of justice to decide. >> he released a statement today saying he intends to cooperate with the agency. he believes that the e-mails were harmless. >> his statement was pretty confident. it didn't sound like something coming that it was going to be damaging from their careers....
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fran townsend, appreciate it. there is new information on jill kelley and her husband scott. they started a charity and dissolved it later. >> drew joins me, what have you learned? >> another twisted part of this tale. as jill kelley was entertaining top military brass in her backyard she and her husband were battling a bank and court because the documents show the red brick house that we have been showing purchased in 2004 for $1.5 million four years later the bank files to foreclose on the kelly's because the bank says they hadn't sent in a mortgage payment since september 2009. the kellkelleys show they are n other lawsuits involving money and the kelley family. >> what about the charity? >> it was called the dr. kelley cancer foundation. it was to conduct research and efforts of term ali ill patients. it spent the same amount on expenses and no record of cancer research and record of care for patients. resources said the matching amounts in a charity's first year are very unusual. more than $8,000 on automobile expenses. dues and subscriptions $6700 the charity lifted $58
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also joining us, fran townsend. fran, you have been at the white house when a nominee or potential nominee is in trouble with members of congress, you know when a high stakes meeting this was between ambassador rice and three of her harshest senate critics. usually a lot of preparation goes into a meeting like that. that makes it all the more surprising to me and i'm sure to you that the acting cia director michael morrell would stumble so badly. do you think if it was an innocent mistake it adds fuel to the fire, doesn't it? >> that's right, wolf. look, this was -- the event took place on september 11th. mistakes in the early days are understandable because of the fog of war, conflicting reports. you can sort of excuse that. but this far later it is unfortunate. listen, mike morrell, the acting director of the cia, he had been senate confirmed as the deputy prior to this, he is a career officer, very well respected. i'm sure he's furious for having made the mistake and being give cgiven bad information. there is no
also joining us, fran townsend. fran, you have been at the white house when a nominee or potential nominee is in trouble with members of congress, you know when a high stakes meeting this was between ambassador rice and three of her harshest senate critics. usually a lot of preparation goes into a meeting like that. that makes it all the more surprising to me and i'm sure to you that the acting cia director michael morrell would stumble so badly. do you think if it was an innocent mistake it...
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. >> back now with dana bash and fran townsend. fran recently visited libya with her employer. you have been critical about how it's handled the situation. isn't it an overreach to say that the president is lying? when i asked him for actual evidence, he didn't seem to have any. >> he didn't seem to let you talk, anderson. you could barely get the question out. i think it's a stretch. i'm not prepared to say that president is lying. i don't think that they handled the protection of the consulate running up to the attack very well or the aftermath of it. i don't think explained it very well to the american people. i don't think we can say at this point that we have evidence that the president lied. it's interesting. obviously the president was aware very early on that there was a possibility that this had been a terrorist attack. and i go back to his statement in the rose garden. he talked about the protests, the attack and the tragedy and made sort of a general -- sort of a veiled reference to terrorism. but it was conveniently there. i think he made it possible that as they un
. >> back now with dana bash and fran townsend. fran recently visited libya with her employer. you have been critical about how it's handled the situation. isn't it an overreach to say that the president is lying? when i asked him for actual evidence, he didn't seem to have any. >> he didn't seem to let you talk, anderson. you could barely get the question out. i think it's a stretch. i'm not prepared to say that president is lying. i don't think that they handled the protection of...
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also joining us, fran townsend. you have been at the white house when a nominee is in trouble with members of congress, you know when a high stakes meeting this was between ambassador rice. the acting cia director would stumble so badly. do you think if it was an innocent mistake it adds fuel to the fire? >> this was the event took place on september the 11th. the first few days are understandable. you can sort of excuse that. but this far later it is unfortunate. mike morell. he had been senate confirmed at the deputy prior to this. very well respected. there is no excuse for it. this late in the game. these meetings were so important to be making those kinds of mistakes now. >> you say it is not an insignificant mistake that he made. >> no. i don't think so. i mean the administration got itself in trouble. being so assertive on setelevisn and denying the possibility that you add han organized terrorist attack in benghazi. and i think it got inflated and if ambassador rice and others had been determined to say that
also joining us, fran townsend. you have been at the white house when a nominee is in trouble with members of congress, you know when a high stakes meeting this was between ambassador rice. the acting cia director would stumble so badly. do you think if it was an innocent mistake it adds fuel to the fire? >> this was the event took place on september the 11th. the first few days are understandable. you can sort of excuse that. but this far later it is unfortunate. mike morell. he had been...
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"outfront" tonight, cnn national security contributor, fran townsend. she's also a member of the cia external add voizry committee and knowed a lot about what it means to have top clearance. the name of the fbi agent, frederick humphries, who was by the way, involved in foiling a terrorist attack in 1999. very accomplished fbi agent. what do you know about the relationship? >> it's interesting. apparently, i understand from a senior law enforcement official that humphries and jill kelley met when she attended the citizens academy. this is a sort of familiarization program that the fbi runs across the country in communities to familiarize people and sort of get them to understand the work of the fbi in their community so it's part of the see something, say something. this is another mean of the fbi reaching out in local communities. jill kelley attended in tampa. agent humphries i'm also told is a member of the fig. field intelligence group. it would make sense. part of their responsibility is to go out, to gather information, you know, appropriate to th
"outfront" tonight, cnn national security contributor, fran townsend. she's also a member of the cia external add voizry committee and knowed a lot about what it means to have top clearance. the name of the fbi agent, frederick humphries, who was by the way, involved in foiling a terrorist attack in 1999. very accomplished fbi agent. what do you know about the relationship? >> it's interesting. apparently, i understand from a senior law enforcement official that humphries and...
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fred kaplin joins me from slate.com, author and fran townsend, a contributor for us. fred, let me start with you. you were the first to write about this specific, the affair today and to mention paulabroad well. what can you tell us? >> well, i can tell you that i have this from multiple, highly reliable sources. you know, she wrote this book about him, which was more of a valentine to him. people, it had been rumored that something was going on between the two of them for some time. i never believed it. people who knew him better than i did never believed it. i've always viewed him as a very straight arrow. >> i had the same impression. a man who walked the walk and talked the talk. and fran, you also know him very well. is this, this specific affair, this really the reason that he is resigning? >> yeah, i've heard nothing to suggest there's any other reason. i think it is in fact related to the allegations of the extramarital affair and look, i think when you look at the letter he wrote, he's taken personal responsibility. he's hold, i think he's holding himself acc
fred kaplin joins me from slate.com, author and fran townsend, a contributor for us. fred, let me start with you. you were the first to write about this specific, the affair today and to mention paulabroad well. what can you tell us? >> well, i can tell you that i have this from multiple, highly reliable sources. you know, she wrote this book about him, which was more of a valentine to him. people, it had been rumored that something was going on between the two of them for some time. i...
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"outfront" tonight, cnn national security contributor, fran townsend. she's also a member of the cia external add voizry committee and knowed a lot about what it means to have top clearance. the name of the fbi agent, frederick humphries, who was by the way, involved in foiling a terrorist attack in 1999. very accomplished fbi agent. what do you know about the relationship? >> it's interesting. apparently, i understand from a senior law enforcement official that humphries and jill kelley met when she attended the citizens academy. this is a sort of familiarization program that the fbi runs across the country in communities to familiarize people and sort of get them to understand the work of the fbi in their community so it's part of the see something, say something. this is another mean of the fbi reaching out in local communities. jill kelley ateptended in tampa. agent humphries i'm also told is a member of the fig. field intelligence group. it would make sense. part of their responsibility is to go out, to gather information, you know, appropriate to
"outfront" tonight, cnn national security contributor, fran townsend. she's also a member of the cia external add voizry committee and knowed a lot about what it means to have top clearance. the name of the fbi agent, frederick humphries, who was by the way, involved in foiling a terrorist attack in 1999. very accomplished fbi agent. what do you know about the relationship? >> it's interesting. apparently, i understand from a senior law enforcement official that humphries and...
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. >> yes, fran townsend reported this earlier that it appears that the information on her computer may have been classified, but it was not all that egregious and nothing there that there were any concerns about national security and possibly not even enough there to bring any charges against her. of course, piers, that is for the department of justice to decide if charges will be brought against her and not up to the fbi. >> and finally general allen read a statement saying he full willy intends to cooperate with the inspectors and sincerely appreciates the support of the president and the members of the public, and he says he is in the clear, and that e-mails he exchanged with jill kelley are innocuous. >> yes, he was confident and didn't sound like it was coming from a person who was worried a about anything coming out that would be damaging to their care career. it is possible at the end of the day, general petraeus was really the casualty of an affair of, you know, how he had even phrased it himself a as an incredible lack of judgment. ultima ultimately, it was his decision to ste
. >> yes, fran townsend reported this earlier that it appears that the information on her computer may have been classified, but it was not all that egregious and nothing there that there were any concerns about national security and possibly not even enough there to bring any charges against her. of course, piers, that is for the department of justice to decide if charges will be brought against her and not up to the fbi. >> and finally general allen read a statement saying he full...
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joining me now on the phone is cnn national security contributor, fran townsend. as you know, fran recently visited libya with her employer, mcandrews and forbes. also with us, suzanne kelly, jonathan turley and cnn contributor and former cia officer, bob baer. fran, you are learning new information about what the fbi was doing at broadwell's house last night. >> anderson, you will remember yesterday as we watched over the course of this five hours in taking boxes out we wondered what in the world could that possibly be about. well, a source tells me that petraeus had designated, if you will, or sort of had paula broadwell be his archivist, the individual who collected and maintained all of his sort of historical documents that would be both backup for her book, but also, frankly, more broadly, her papers, and that the fbi had told broadwell they were interested in taking those documents, looking at that archive. we believe -- this source believed to see if there was any classified information in there, and so what we witnessed last night over the course of five h
joining me now on the phone is cnn national security contributor, fran townsend. as you know, fran recently visited libya with her employer, mcandrews and forbes. also with us, suzanne kelly, jonathan turley and cnn contributor and former cia officer, bob baer. fran, you are learning new information about what the fbi was doing at broadwell's house last night. >> anderson, you will remember yesterday as we watched over the course of this five hours in taking boxes out we wondered what in...